Re: Fireworks 8/CS3 Tutorial

**pknova** · by **pknova** on Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:05 pm

I finaly tried fireworks and i made my new avatar :P

I thought it was really hard but its really easy :o

mrCYAN · by mrCYAN on Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:05 pm

ThEPhOeNiX wrote:Marc i have only one question....... I've been trying to find a way to import symbols/sprites to the common library and i've been doing it for an hour and my eyes hurt.. please help?

Go to Documents and Settings>User>Application Data>Adobe>Fireworks CS3>Common Library and paste your symbols and sprites there. You can put them into folders, but not folders within folders.

**Zephyic** · by **Zephyic** on Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:15 am

o.0!! i didnt noe you can animate using fireworks...
I gonna try do some short animations =D
thx for the tut

ThEPhOeNiX · by ThEPhOeNiX on Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:58 pm

Khmer wrote:
ThEPhOeNiX wrote:Marc i have only one question....... I've been trying to find a way to import symbols/sprites to the common library and i've been doing it for an hour and my eyes hurt.. please help?

Go to Documents and Settings>User>Application Data>Adobe>Fireworks CS3>Common Library and paste your symbols and sprites there. You can put them into folders, but not folders within folders.

THX for da help Khmer....although Marc told meh over msn XD
So yeah.. recomended for all..animate using fireworks

Anashi · by Anashi on Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:24 pm

ThEPhOeNiX wrote:So yeah.. recomended for all..animate using fireworks

I like Flash better :<

**Chibi Xin** · by **Chibi Xin** on Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:01 am

That's because you haven't TRIED Fireworks, have you?

And if you have Vista and are wanting to insert stuffs into the common library, go to run then type in:
%appdata%
Then go to Adobe > Fireworks CS3 > Common Library

mrCYAN · by mrCYAN on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:25 am

If you learn to animate with Fireworks, then go to Flash, you'll be a really good animator, because then you'll have well knowledge about frame-by-frame animating and when you go to Flash, you could add sounds and what not. If you start with Flash, you'll probably one of those tween abusers that don't really know how to frame-by-frame animate. Plus I hate those people. :x

Anashi · by Anashi on Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:46 pm

Cbxsn wrote:That's because you haven't TRIED Fireworks, have you?

No. I tried Fireworks.

Khmer wrote:If you start with Flash, you'll probably one of those tween abusers that don't really know how to frame-by-frame animate. Plus I hate those people. :x

I'm not really a tween abuser :<

ThEPhOeNiX · by ThEPhOeNiX on Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:01 pm

Khmer wrote:If you learn to animate with Fireworks, then go to Flash, you'll be a really good animator, because then you'll have well knowledge about frame-by-frame animating and when you go to Flash, you could add sounds and what not. If you start with Flash, you'll probably one of those tween abusers that don't really know how to frame-by-frame animate. Plus I hate those people. :x

That is true.... i treid in Flash before and it was hard...with Fireowrks its more easy to learn and you can animate in Flash later on and on....but right now im sticking on to Fireworks

HighJack · by HighJack on Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:58 am

Hey Gregio, you know how you make a Fireworks Animation, you save it, then close it?

Well, every time I open the GIF file, it's always into one group (background+character etc).
How do I fix it so the background and character are seperate?
Sorry if you don't understand this

**Neo** · by **Neo** on Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:22 am

high jack save it as firework png

**Gregio** · by **Gregio** on Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:29 am

What Neos said.
FireworksPNG is the equivalent to Flash's .fla or Photoshop's .psd.
It's the Fireworks editable file.

**Neo** · by **Neo** on Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:06 am

was does distrubute frame mean?

**Chibi Xin** · by **Chibi Xin** on Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:07 am

It means that the skills/sprites you have selected distribute to frames.

Like:

Walk 1 [Selected]
Walk 2 [Selected]
Walk 3 [Selected]
Walk 4 [Selected]

After you click distribute to frames and you have more frames, it will look like this:

Walk 4 [Frame 1]
Walk 3 [Frame 2]
Walk 2 [Frame 3]
Walk 1 [Frame 4]

AbdulkarimShinai · by AbdulkarimShinai on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:20 am

Hello Gregio.Thanks for the tutorial I really like it . But got a question. That skill rar file when I click on custom that skills they only have 1 frame not like 5 frames or more just one. Is there a problem or is it like 1 frame? Thanks already Very Happy

AbdulkarimShinai

**Mark** · by **Mark** on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am

AbdulkarimShinai wrote:Hello Gregio.Thanks for the tutorial I really like it . But got a question. That skill rar file when I click on custom that skills they only have 1 frame not like 5 frames or more just one. Is there a problem or is it like 1 frame? Thanks already

AbdulkarimShinai

They're fireworks pngs. They have multiple layers but to Windows they look like a flattened image. So if you open the skills on fireworks they'll be multiple layers and there are your frames.

**Gregio** · by **Gregio** on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:41 pm

It's so nice having so many people be experts at FW, I don't even have to answer most of the questions in my tut.

**Mark** · by **Mark** on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:45 pm

Gregio wrote:It's so nice having so many people be experts at FW, I don't even have to answer most of the questions in my tut.

*cough* *cough* A THANK YOU WOULD BE NICE *cough* *cough*

Damn. I'm getting sick. I better start taking some medicine.

ThEPhOeNiX · by ThEPhOeNiX on Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:56 pm

mtplaya wrote:
Gregio wrote:It's so nice having so many people be experts at FW, I don't even have to answer most of the questions in my tut.

*cough* *cough* A THANK YOU WOULD BE NICE *cough* *cough*

Damn. I'm getting sick. I better start taking some medicine.

Hahahahaha......seriously Fireworks is becoming the most app used to animate thanks to Gregio

ravensep · by ravensep on Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:51 am

THATS IT! ILL SHOW U HOW BORING IT IS TO DO FRAME BY FRAME

BEHOLD! MY NUB VID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJJRoNftXg&feature=channel_page

-_-''

>.> i like tween
i bet ur animation is only 30 sec cuz ya don't do tween :c (jk)

no srsly if frame by frame is good, explain how mi gonna do that properly
cuz i dont get it e_o''

**Gregio** · by **Gregio** on Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:04 am

There is no easy way to animate. It's not someting meant to be done in a few minutes while you're bored, it's pretty fucking hard.
Frame by frame IS good, and if you forced yourself to animate with it, you'd get the hang of it and it would become easier. The keys to quick animating are keyboard shortcuts, I have all kinds of custom shortcuts on FW, several are possible for Flash as well.
What you need to understand is: No good animation ever comes from tweening.

ravensep · by ravensep on Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:25 am

Gregio wrote:There is no easy way to animate. It's not someting meant to be done in a few minutes while you're bored, it's pretty fucking hard.
Frame by frame IS good, and if you forced yourself to animate with it, you'd get the hang of it and it would become easier. The keys to quick animating are keyboard shortcuts, I have all kinds of custom shortcuts on FW, several are possible for Flash as well.
What you need to understand is: No good animation ever comes from tweening.

....so leme guess,all the tutorial i searched....all the past times i was watching dray/sprite/narutoteps/ animation...............the 5 mins watching this tutorial and diging jr.madness fav... for nothing? Crying

credit nuby for the light...

**spritefan2** · by **spritefan2** on Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:30 am

ravensep wrote:
Gregio wrote:There is no easy way to animate. It's not someting meant to be done in a few minutes while you're bored, it's pretty fucking hard.
Frame by frame IS good, and if you forced yourself to animate with it, you'd get the hang of it and it would become easier. The keys to quick animating are keyboard shortcuts, I have all kinds of custom shortcuts on FW, several are possible for Flash as well.
What you need to understand is: No good animation ever comes from tweening.

....so leme guess,all the tutorial i searched....all the past times i was watching dray/sprite/narutoteps/ animation...............the 5 mins watching this tutorial and diging jr.madness fav... for nothing?

Narutoeps is actually a very good animator and doesn't tween except for walking and such. He is one of the better maple animators on youtube since he made flash movies on Newgrounds about 2-3 years before doing maple crap. Too bad his latest episode got taken down for sound issues or w/e >_>;

Anyways don't use tween if you got flash unless it's
-walking (well you can or dont have to, I'm starting to like fbf more)
-cloud backgrounds
-tweening fades/blurs/etc..

otherwise I never use the motion tween anymore o.o;

Now to topic, Love the tut Gregio

Reply back to gregio on post below me
VVV

Yeah, you guys sorta converted me into youtube being like filled with crap animators o-o; I will still prolly do some stuff there but I'll make it pretty nice now. O:

I made an edit in here since I don't wont to post again and keep going off topic D:

**Gregio** · by **Gregio** on Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:35 am

Nice to see a Youtube animator who actually realizes how bad tween is.

PS: C&C on my new super tags which link to my gallery and ~~literature~~(fixing the lit. one) threads.

mrCYAN · by mrCYAN on Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:13 pm

spritefan2 wrote:
ravensep wrote:
Gregio wrote:There is no easy way to animate. It's not someting meant to be done in a few minutes while you're bored, it's pretty fucking hard.
Frame by frame IS good, and if you forced yourself to animate with it, you'd get the hang of it and it would become easier. The keys to quick animating are keyboard shortcuts, I have all kinds of custom shortcuts on FW, several are possible for Flash as well.
What you need to understand is: No good animation ever comes from tweening.

....so leme guess,all the tutorial i searched....all the past times i was watching dray/sprite/narutoteps/ animation...............the 5 mins watching this tutorial and diging jr.madness fav... for nothing?

Narutoeps is actually a very good animator and doesn't tween except for walking and such. He is one of the better maple animators on youtube since he made flash movies on Newgrounds about 2-3 years before doing maple crap. Too bad his latest episode got taken down for sound issues or w/e >_>;

Anyways don't use tween if you got flash unless it's
-walking (well you can or dont have to, I'm starting to like fbf more)
-cloud backgrounds
-tweening fades/blurs/etc..

otherwise I never use the motion tween anymore o.o;

Now to topic, Love the tut Gregio

Reply back to gregio on post below me
VVV

Yeah, you guys sorta converted me into youtube being like filled with crap animators o-o; I will still prolly do some stuff there but I'll make it pretty nice now. O:

I made an edit in here since I don't wont to post again and keep going off topic D:

+10 respect points for spritefan2.